Hotel California. I must have been about 5 or 6 years old and had no clue what it was about, all I knew was that they talked about a "beast" and said "you can never leave".
Mrs. Witness
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Scary Songs
by Clam indid you have a song or tune that used to give you the creeps when you were a kid?
i used to hate sparky's magic piano, while the theme from dr.who used to make me put my hands over my ears.. i've been trying to think of some more .
clam .
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Can a non-JW go to a non-public function?
by RebelWife ini've never been a jw.
if i got a wild hair and decided to go to something other than a "public talk," what would happen?
would they allow someone to sit in on one of their sales meetings?
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Mrs. Witness
Carla, I love the way you call your hubby "my JW". I'm going to steal it.
MY JW has warned everyone that I'm staunchly against any solicitation, but I have been invited to book studies and attended graduation parties and a baby shower (another topic...why is it OK to celebrate the "first" birthday with a baby shower but forget the child every year after that?...and, why do all JW's know their birthdays, their children's birthdays, and their parents' birthdays if birthdays are no big deal?).
Back on topic...we recently attended a funeral for the father of a man in my JW's congo. The man and his wife are really sweet. My older daughter & I both wore pants and I told her to look around the hall to see how many other women were wearing pants. She laughed when she realized it was just us two. I also saw a man with a pony-tail and a beard. I leaned over to my JW and said "he's someone's husband, right?". It's really easy to spot the UBM's at these functions!
Go to a meeting or two. It will reinforce for you that what you read here is true. Unfortunately, it will also scare you some. Sheep-like behavior is scary to me.
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The Average JW WILL NOT Leave!!!!
by minimus inyou could have stupid new light every week published and the vast majority aren't going anywhere.
you could see proof of contradiction after contradiction right in front of your nose, if you're a witness.
and you still won't budge.. the reason: mental and spiritual laziness.
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Mme Q touched on what I think is the real reason most JW's don't leave...they don't have to make decisions. I know Mr. Witness is that way. Even a simple decision regarding where to go out to dinner can make him spin out of control. The WT takes the ambiguity of life, the messiness of life, if you will, away.
They boil it down to a simple equation: do this, this and this and you will be a happy person and have everlasting life after you die. We have all the answers you will ever need...no need to think for yourself! We'll think for you! And by the way, over here in the corner...we have a nice Kool Aid stand we'd like you to visit...
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What does an MS do?
by Mrs. Witness ini just read mr. flipper's thread about politics & appointments and began to wonder: what does a ministerial servant do?
how would one become an ms?
my hubby is gung-ho, so this might be something he's after, but i need to know more of what it's about so i can look for signs..
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Mrs. Witness
Finally asked hubby if he was trying to be an MS. He said that he would LOVE to but that it took a big time committment and that he wasn't sure that he wanted to be away from the family that much (HA HA). It was confirmed for me this weekend, though, that he seems to be viewed as such anyway. We went to a JW funeral and Mr Used Car Salesman (aka the Annoying Elder) was not in attendance. So many people asked hubby where UCS was that I asked hubby "was it your turn to watch him?". Then on Sunday morning (and this was not the first time) I heard him on the phone to one of his friends, "making sure" he was awake. I asked hubby why he called him, and he said, "Brother Sleepy some times has trouble getting up". I just rolled my eyes.
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My son and daughter...making me proud...
by Billzfan23 inmy 9 year old son decides back in april that the memorial is going to be his last meeting at the kingdomhall.
so... he refuses to go to the meetings, and when forced to go - leaves the meeting right after the song and starts walking to my mother-in-law's house a couple of blocks away where he knows my sypathetic father-in-law (a raging catholic, not a jw) will have sympathy on him and say "nevermind, just leave him here with me when you go to the meetings from now on.
" the next week - the garbage man visits to collect the trash in front of the house - and my son had taken all of his meeting clothes, pants, suit jackets, ties, dress socks, etc... and left them all curbside for the trash man to pick up.
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Mrs. Witness
Awesome!! Absolutely fantastic. Hugs to your kids!!
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Time to do more covers! Caption time. Here they are.
by Wasanelder Once inhere are the latest round of covers for your apostafun.
be clever, be clear and larger fonts are best for the videos.. .
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Mrs. Witness
You are all too funny! Loved yours Para!
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Has any body ever read this book "Lamb" by Christopher Moore?
by ldrnomo init's a great book if you have a sense of humor about god and christ in fact he quotes voltare in the begining.
"god is a comedian playing to an audience that's afraid to laugh".
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Mrs. Witness
Is that one subtitled "the Gospel According to Biff"? If it is, I've read it a few times. I love it! Mr. Witness HATES it! I think I'll get a new copy and re-read it!!
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Baptism Questions Question
by Mrs. Witness inagain, against my therapist's suggestion, i got into a doctrinal discussion with mr. witness.
i told him i'd been coming here and he doesn't like it (too bad, so sad).
anyway, i told him part of it was that i was keeping up with the $ociety's teachings.
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Mrs. Witness
You hit it on the nose. Some days are so "normal" and others are just wrong. I don't know where to draw the line. I have trouble because I'm so angry at him and it affects me & the kids so much! I just can't figure out which is better or what the "last straw" will be for me.
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Joke of the day
by Tyrone van leyen inan evil witch, had cast a spell on a prince.
he was only able to say, 1 word every year.
if he remained silent and skipped a year, he could say two words, and so on.
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Mrs. Witness
Two of my personal favorites:
- Why was 6 afraid of 7? Because 7-8-9! (you have to say it out loud to get the full effect)
- A mushroom walks into a bar. The bartender says "we don't serve your kind here". The mushroom says "why not, I'm a fun guy".
Ba-dum-bump.
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Baptism Questions Question
by Mrs. Witness inagain, against my therapist's suggestion, i got into a doctrinal discussion with mr. witness.
i told him i'd been coming here and he doesn't like it (too bad, so sad).
anyway, i told him part of it was that i was keeping up with the $ociety's teachings.
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Yeah, I did plant a seed one time and it sent him running to his elder (I call him the used car salesman) who gave him a Proclaimers book. I guess he was ambushed by the fact that I knew more about his religion's history than he did. Too bad he got his history from THEM rather than a reliable source!
Carla, I agree with what you said about therapists. She's a good sounding board, but since I've been going by myself, we've discussed divorce more. Funny enough, we once talked to the used car salesman and, after he stopped talking about himself, almost immediately started talking about a separation and how it's OK because it's in the scriptures. Seems like neither the marriage counselor nor the elder are interested in actually helping to save a marriage!
One of the things we did discuss was how he can't self-regulate and he needs the borg to tell him what to think, where to be, how to dress, act, blah blah blah. At first he took offense, then he re-stated it and I said "see, you just admitted it, you need them to tell you how to be...you don't even know who you are without the JW label." I think that's the most disheartening part of it all. He's been brainwashed for so long that any independent thought he has is "evil", he really believes it.
His mom kicked him out at about 15 (such a loving Christian woman, that one). He had been drinking & doing drugs and instead of getting him help...oh, yeah, I forgot, she did get him help...she had some elders come talk to him , she kicked him out so that he wouldn't influence his younger brother & sister. So, of course, he was "dead" in his eyes so he continued to drink and smoke then he went into the service and learned how to be a trained killer. He was good at that for awhile then continued to drink & smoke...this went on for over another 15 years. When we got together, I told him no more booze & drugs. That worked as far as the booze & drugs, but the thought is still there that he can't be a good husband & father without the WTBTS. Our first couple years were horrible because he was trying to convert me and wanted us to be "Super Witness Family"...no TV, no rock & roll, no caffeine or sweet food...and I hate to admit this...in the interest of trying to get along and be a good wife...he convinced me to throw out my extensive Stephen King collection. Finally, when he went back to the WTBTS against my wishes, I lost it and went to the Methodist Church I went to as a child and he about lost his mind...blah blah blah...I'm getting long winded, sorry.
Basically, my poor hubby is lost to THEM and I am really afraid I can't get him back. I can keep throwing things up to him, but I am convinced it's to no avail. Now I am trying to figure out how to keep my girls from it.
Thanks for your support & feedback!